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		<title>By: Taste T.O. &#8211; Food &#38; Drink In Toronto &#187; Beer of the Week &#8211; Harviestoun Ola Dubh 40</title>
		<link>http://www.beerboozebites.com/2009/06/16/how-much-is-too-much/#comment-353</link>
		<dc:creator>Taste T.O. &#8211; Food &#38; Drink In Toronto &#187; Beer of the Week &#8211; Harviestoun Ola Dubh 40</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] summer, I wrote a blog post entitled &quot;How Much Is Too Much?&quot; that raised the question of whether or not the $25 I had spent on a single 375 ml bottle of beer at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JonasOfToronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonasOfToronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I follow your gist Greg, and the $35 +tax/tip I recently spent on a Westvleteren 12 at Bar Volo was, I think well-spent.

Why?

Well, if I&#039;m traveling in Europe, I want to be independent and not feel I must waste hours going out of my way seeking one beer. ANY beer. The alternative cost then of any Belgian beer found over here is pretty reasonable, compared to what lost hours on a trip may potentially cost - I&#039;m talking not only dollars, but potential experiences.

This is not to say I will never travel where the beer AND the experience is good! That would make me a liar.

But it&#039;s something entirely worthy to enjoy the exotic taste of a rarely-found Belgian beer right here,  at a local bar, with friends at home, or curled up on one&#039;s sofa. The sights aromas and tastes can seem to sweep one away to another place, as a break from the usual Toronto work week. For a minute you can feel like you are in Belgium, or Bavaria, or Prague, or Brooklyn NYC. A whole experience is right there.

Expensive beer is then perhaps just a very well-bottled form of the experience one gets in travel.

And while it IS bloody hard not to steal the glass, the experience is the real keepsake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I follow your gist Greg, and the $35 +tax/tip I recently spent on a Westvleteren 12 at Bar Volo was, I think well-spent.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Well, if I&#8217;m traveling in Europe, I want to be independent and not feel I must waste hours going out of my way seeking one beer. ANY beer. The alternative cost then of any Belgian beer found over here is pretty reasonable, compared to what lost hours on a trip may potentially cost &#8211; I&#8217;m talking not only dollars, but potential experiences.</p>
<p>This is not to say I will never travel where the beer AND the experience is good! That would make me a liar.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s something entirely worthy to enjoy the exotic taste of a rarely-found Belgian beer right here,  at a local bar, with friends at home, or curled up on one&#8217;s sofa. The sights aromas and tastes can seem to sweep one away to another place, as a break from the usual Toronto work week. For a minute you can feel like you are in Belgium, or Bavaria, or Prague, or Brooklyn NYC. A whole experience is right there.</p>
<p>Expensive beer is then perhaps just a very well-bottled form of the experience one gets in travel.</p>
<p>And while it IS bloody hard not to steal the glass, the experience is the real keepsake.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Clow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Clow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn - yeah, they&#039;ll be up there in price, definitely. Although being larger bottles and more suited to sharing, the price may be a bit easier to handle and/or self-justify for some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn &#8211; yeah, they&#8217;ll be up there in price, definitely. Although being larger bottles and more suited to sharing, the price may be a bit easier to handle and/or self-justify for some.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Barley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Barley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey what about those Italian Bruton beers Greg?

From Tuscany?

at a rough cost of $15-16 per 750 Ml for the restaurant they would be in that class of costly brews ?

Glenn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey what about those Italian Bruton beers Greg?</p>
<p>From Tuscany?</p>
<p>at a rough cost of $15-16 per 750 Ml for the restaurant they would be in that class of costly brews ?</p>
<p>Glenn</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.beerboozebites.com/2009/06/16/how-much-is-too-much/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to me (and who better to be fair to?) I was home with a thrown out back this morning giving me that pole position on the comment making moment. It was the exquisite draw of a rhubarb beer that really made me do it.

And to be fair to relative value, I happily pay as much for 1970s Doctor Who DVDs... though I can hit the button for a replay in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to me (and who better to be fair to?) I was home with a thrown out back this morning giving me that pole position on the comment making moment. It was the exquisite draw of a rhubarb beer that really made me do it.</p>
<p>And to be fair to relative value, I happily pay as much for 1970s Doctor Who DVDs&#8230; though I can hit the button for a replay in that case.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, Math was never my strong point ;)
The only reason I was in Montreal was for the Mondial so I figure the whole cost of the trip was just for the beer. I&#039;m hoping on my next trip to Toronto I&#039;ll be able to try the &quot;Deus&quot;(among others) at BeerBistro. I understand its $50 for a 750ml bottle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, Math was never my strong point <img src='http://www.beerboozebites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The only reason I was in Montreal was for the Mondial so I figure the whole cost of the trip was just for the beer. I&#8217;m hoping on my next trip to Toronto I&#8217;ll be able to try the &#8220;Deus&#8221;(among others) at BeerBistro. I understand its $50 for a 750ml bottle.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Clow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Clow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan: How did I know that you&#039;d be the first person to comment on this? ;) Yes, taking into account the expected mark-up, $25 is really a more than fair price for a beer of this sort.

As far as retail goes, I think the most I&#039;ve spent for a beer of a comparable size is the $18 or so I dropped for a bottle of Westy 12 when it was briefly available at Premier Gourmet in Buffalo a few years ago. I think it was around US$12 at a time when the exchange rate sucked, and it was amongst a bunch of other beer that got us pinged for duty. But I felt that it was well worth it at the time.  I will likely take a pass, however, on the $45 that is rumored as being the price in at least one Toronto bar that has got some of the grey market Westy 12 that has recently entered the city...

Stephen: Yes, I definitely feel that I got my moneys worth. It&#039;s a beautiful beer (as I expected from Cantillon), it fit the moment perfectly, and it didn&#039;t leave me with even a smidgen of buyer&#039;s remorse.

But it also made me ask myself: Would I have bought it if it were $30? Or $40? Or $50? (See Westy 12 comment above.) Again: How much is too much? It probably depends on the beer, and the time, and the place, and how flush I happen to be at the moment - a ultimately, how much enjoyment I expect I&#039;ll get out of it.

Flavius: You raise good points/questions. I ask myself the same thing sometimes, especially if I&#039;m not sure what I want and I&#039;m scanning the menu for options. In this case, I knew exactly what I was going in for, and didn&#039;t do any calculations about what else I could&#039;ve gotten for the money - but sometimes, it makes sense to do that.

Frank: Dunno if I completely agree with your math there - weren&#039;t there other things you saw and did and drank and ate in Montreal that should come out of that $600 as well? But yeah, samples at festivals - especially those that you travel to - always have a fairly high unit cost attached to them. In those scenarios, I try not to think about it too much, and just enjoy.

Vanessa: Yup, &#039;nuff said. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan: How did I know that you&#8217;d be the first person to comment on this? <img src='http://www.beerboozebites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Yes, taking into account the expected mark-up, $25 is really a more than fair price for a beer of this sort.</p>
<p>As far as retail goes, I think the most I&#8217;ve spent for a beer of a comparable size is the $18 or so I dropped for a bottle of Westy 12 when it was briefly available at Premier Gourmet in Buffalo a few years ago. I think it was around US$12 at a time when the exchange rate sucked, and it was amongst a bunch of other beer that got us pinged for duty. But I felt that it was well worth it at the time.  I will likely take a pass, however, on the $45 that is rumored as being the price in at least one Toronto bar that has got some of the grey market Westy 12 that has recently entered the city&#8230;</p>
<p>Stephen: Yes, I definitely feel that I got my moneys worth. It&#8217;s a beautiful beer (as I expected from Cantillon), it fit the moment perfectly, and it didn&#8217;t leave me with even a smidgen of buyer&#8217;s remorse.</p>
<p>But it also made me ask myself: Would I have bought it if it were $30? Or $40? Or $50? (See Westy 12 comment above.) Again: How much is too much? It probably depends on the beer, and the time, and the place, and how flush I happen to be at the moment &#8211; a ultimately, how much enjoyment I expect I&#8217;ll get out of it.</p>
<p>Flavius: You raise good points/questions. I ask myself the same thing sometimes, especially if I&#8217;m not sure what I want and I&#8217;m scanning the menu for options. In this case, I knew exactly what I was going in for, and didn&#8217;t do any calculations about what else I could&#8217;ve gotten for the money &#8211; but sometimes, it makes sense to do that.</p>
<p>Frank: Dunno if I completely agree with your math there &#8211; weren&#8217;t there other things you saw and did and drank and ate in Montreal that should come out of that $600 as well? But yeah, samples at festivals &#8211; especially those that you travel to &#8211; always have a fairly high unit cost attached to them. In those scenarios, I try not to think about it too much, and just enjoy.</p>
<p>Vanessa: Yup, &#8217;nuff said. <img src='http://www.beerboozebites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa (Last Night's Leftovers)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa (Last Night's Leftovers)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$25 for 45 minutes of enjoyment seems worth it to me!</description>
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		<title>By: Frank McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent about $600 for my three days in Montreal for the Mondial De La Biere. I sampled about 35 beers. That works out to around $17 a sample. Well worth it. I had a wonderful time and tried some fantastic beers. Compared to flying to Belgium to try the beer, which is something I&#039;d like to do,  your $25 beer is a bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent about $600 for my three days in Montreal for the Mondial De La Biere. I sampled about 35 beers. That works out to around $17 a sample. Well worth it. I had a wonderful time and tried some fantastic beers. Compared to flying to Belgium to try the beer, which is something I&#8217;d like to do,  your $25 beer is a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Flavius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flavius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I decide whether to splurge on beer, I ask myself two questions. What other beer could I buy for the same money? Will I be passing up a great opportunity for a new taste?  In this case I could have bought a four pack of  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.left4beer.com/2009/03/palo-santo-marron-dogfish-head-and-blog.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palo Santo Marron&lt;/a&gt;. I have also not tried many of the excellent beers on their menu, so I might try something else. Then again I have dropped $20 on a bottle of Scaldis Noel Premium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I decide whether to splurge on beer, I ask myself two questions. What other beer could I buy for the same money? Will I be passing up a great opportunity for a new taste?  In this case I could have bought a four pack of  <a href="http://www.left4beer.com/2009/03/palo-santo-marron-dogfish-head-and-blog.html" rel="nofollow">Palo Santo Marron</a>. I have also not tried many of the excellent beers on their menu, so I might try something else. Then again I have dropped $20 on a bottle of Scaldis Noel Premium.</p>
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